etherati: B&W Dan and Ror in front of Owlship, from GN (ror hurm)
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...as loosely related to eventual zombie!porn. D: D: YES I'M GOING TO GO THERE. BLAME LIODAIN. Well no that's not fair. Blame me. It's my freaking AU.  D|

11 lines from Eliot's Waste Land, analyzed, free associated, dumped into the stream of consciousness. Thought it might be of vague interest. If not, feel free to ignore.

Transcribed from paper!journal:



"Then spoke the thunder                                                          400
DA
Datta: what have we given?
My friend, blood shaking my heart
The awful daring of a moment's surrender
Which an age of prudence can never retract
By this, and this only, we have existed."

Eliot is for once (and only once) condoning and accepting our lust and our surrender to it as conditional to existence. Sinful action at least signifies existence, and is therefore better than inaction, which signifies nothing. Reference? Earlier work, covered this already. Moving on.

Moments that hang on past themselves and give a sense of self, of a position within time; surrender to ourselves shows us who we are. I exist I exist I exist. He says 'friend'; contrast this with the anonymous encounter in the fire sermon so roundly condemned. (Ref to Jean possibly? Am I seeing slash in everything?) Is the end goal(life vs satisfaction of base desires) the important part, or is the context more significant - lust wrapped in love rather than more lust. Water a constant theme. Water is a symbol for life all throughout but water is also a common cultural symbol for love. Condoning surrender to emotion perhaps, rather than surrender to physical sensation, with the goal irrelevant.

"Which is not to be found in our obituaries
Or in memories draped by the beneficent spider
Or under seals broken by the lean solicitor
In our empty rooms."                                                               410

Imagery speaks very solidly - that after we have gone to dust, the existence we have cultivated in the space between ourselves evaporates, with no one ever the wiser - no one understanding our motivations, our reasons, our excuses, our follies. Why we chose to make our home amongst these strewn moments of dissonance and fear. We become bodies in empty rooms and the intangible connections between us do not linger. There is value in these connections, or the language describing their dissipation would not read like mourning.

What have we given? We give the only thing that is ours to give. We give connection, we give self, we give sin and evil and grace and surrender, we give sympathy and control and isn't that the rest of the story? Datta, Dayadhvam, Damyata. Give, sympathize, control. We give when we cannot bear to take, accept when we cannot ask. Control when sympathy is not enough to quell the chorus in our heads. Sympathize when control shatters. Give of ourselves and hope that it is enough, that blood shakes the heart in relief rather than fear, that the daring is worth its risk, that the surrender is received as the fragile gift it is, handled lightly, unbroken. That we do not wish to retract it. That the giving does not diminish the greater scope of our existence. My friend. My friend. Blood shaking my heart - "My friend," he says. "Love," he does not say, as friends never do, as no one who really should ever does, because there are too many kinds and only one word and language cows the spirit every time. My friend.

Eventually all the rooms will be empty, all surrenders forgotten with the reasons and the excuses and the guilt - all friends dead and gone. Will it have been worth it? And would an age of prudence have been worth it? At death's door, would any of us ask for the memory of a pure life and in the bargain, trade away a hand, a breath, a voice in the darkness, tears to fall on a numb cheek, arms to die in? These connections hum in our hearts and if the giving is base and vulgar, it is still better than giving nothing at all.

My friend.



Yeah, so. THIS IS THE KIND OF SHIT I THINK ABOUT WHILE PLANNING FICS. Brought to you by Bic and Moleskine, and by the letter C. For CRAAAAAZY.

Date: 2009-05-07 10:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liodain.livejournal.com
I HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE HAPPY TO TAKE THE BLAME FOR SOMETHING :D

Date: 2009-05-07 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etherati.livejournal.com
*HEAPS BLAME THEN*

REALLY THOUGH. You drew something unbelievably hot and then made a completely offhanded joke that made me unable to see anything other than zombie!porn in said image because I'm pathetic and sad like that - TOTALLY YOUR FAULT. ALL OF IT.

(end self-deprecating sarcasm)

Date: 2009-05-07 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liodain.livejournal.com
Haha, you say it was a joke, but I was halfway through drawing the damn thing when I realised that it was insidiously becoming zombie!porn. A few spatters of blood on Dan's face and sequentially it could come right after the chapter 10 sketch.

YOU SEE IT BECAUSE IT'S THERE :D

Date: 2009-05-07 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etherati.livejournal.com
That's. More awesome than I can communicate. Because when I first saw it I thought... guh that would work so well in the AU but not gonna say anything because I don't want to seem OBSESSED. And then when you made the joke I just about died. in a good way of course.

Of course, if that did follow on directly from the chap 10 sketch, poor Dan probably WOULD have wound up bleeding on the ground. D: Because Ror had absolutely shit for self-control at that particular moment.

BUT I DON'T CARE. There must be a version with the spatters added. FOR MY UH. PRIVATE COLLECTION. *coughs* If you want to, I mean.

Date: 2009-05-07 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etherati.livejournal.com
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NO WORDS. YOU HAVE KILLED ME DED.

I LOVE YOU FOREVER.

Date: 2009-05-08 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steals-thyme.livejournal.com
ARE YOU A ZOMBIE NOW OR ARE YOU POSTING FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE :D

Date: 2009-05-08 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etherati.livejournal.com
Hey if the picture is any indication of the perks of zombiedom, I WILL HAPPILY BE A ZOMBIE.

dan's list of kinks...

Date: 2009-05-08 07:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuff-ghost.livejournal.com
i like hungry zombies and i cannot lie
the other vigilantes can't deny
when rorschach breaks in with a lust for brains
and his bared teeth in your face
YOU GET SPRUNG

Re: dan's list of kinks...

Date: 2009-05-08 08:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etherati.livejournal.com
Well played. XD

Dan's list of kinks just goes on for MILES.

i'm soooo sleepy

Date: 2009-05-08 09:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuff-ghost.livejournal.com
All it takes is the inclination to feed off others' enjoyment

Dan is a natural fangirl ;)

zzz

Date: 2009-05-08 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuff-ghost.livejournal.com
this is the last thing I'm indexing tonight

I think it's the only one with an actual sex scene that I've rated as PG, ever

grats

just to be a dick

Date: 2009-05-08 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuff-ghost.livejournal.com
but I'm also tagging it with "kink: breathplay". SO THERE.

Re: just to be a dick

Date: 2009-05-08 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuff-ghost.livejournal.com
sure, but it's not inaccurate!

The temptation to index fics at work gets stronger every minute that goes by. I only started this jerb on Monday D:

Re: just to be a dick

Date: 2009-05-08 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etherati.livejournal.com
That's. probably a Bad Idea. D:

Re: dan's list of kinks...

Date: 2009-05-08 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liodain.livejournal.com
I need this on an icon, 35 minutes ago.

Re: yeah, i'm an artist

Date: 2009-05-10 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etherati.livejournal.com
Fuck. I just about passed out from NOT GETTING ENOUGH OXYGEN i was laughing so freaking hard. I TIP MY HAT TO YOU.

sweet

Date: 2009-05-10 05:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuff-ghost.livejournal.com
I'm tagging this with "kink: breathplay".

Re: sweet

Date: 2009-05-10 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etherati.livejournal.com
D: There wasn't even any porn. I feel gypped.

Re: yeah, i'm an artist

Date: 2009-05-10 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liodain.livejournal.com
Have I told you lately that I love you
Have I told you there's no-one else above you
Fill my heart with gladness, take away all my sadness
Ease my troubles thats what you do~

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